As an IVF Mama myself, I was super excited about this interview. I think IVF is one of the most magnificent things that clever brains have created and I’m eternally grateful to them and science. I know that Emma feels exactly the same!
How long were you trying to conceive before having IVF?
My husband actually told me when we’d only been dating for a few weeks that he couldn’t have
children. That was 2013 and looking back it was all kind of a dramatic time. After just a few months we
went for a procedure to correct his infertility but it failed. The doctor came out to me where I was
waiting in my little private sitting room and told me very definitely that the procedure hadn’t been
successful and we had no chance whatsoever of getting pregnant. This was pretty devastating because
we’d been really confident that it would work!
We each spent some time after this getting used to the possibility of never having a baby and figuring
out what that meant for our relationship. We decided that even with no children, we wanted to be
together more than anything. I knew without a doubt that he was happily ever after for me but it was
still a massive decision to be making at the age of 23 when all I had ever wanted was children! Once
we’d made this choice we discussed what we wanted to do from there and we both agreed that
although we could be happy without one, we really wanted a baby. By the end of 2014 we had agreed to
start IVF as soon as we were married. We both really wanted to have children and we made the decision
to keep going until we made it happen.
So you didn’t have to take the dreaded Clomid or any other fertility drugs before IVF?
Due to ours being a case of male infertility I never had any meds or anything before IVF. In a lot of ways
this was a blessing, but at the same time its difficult to deal with such an abrupt, hardline ‘no chance at
Even though you were told you wouldn’t conceive naturally, did you still cling on to any secret hopes?
We had a 0% chance of ever conceiving naturally so you’d think that least there would have been no
crushing hope-and-disappointment phase but I guess it’s human nature. Every month I would get my
period and I would realise that some small part of me had been holding its breath and hoping for a
miracle. I would catch myself daydreaming about it and have to give myself a shake. Seeing people with
babies would cause a little stab of pain. I just kept telling myself that after the wedding we would be
starting IVF and to try not to think about it until then.
Did you have lots of people asking when are you going to have kids/why don’t you have any yet?
People started asking about kids right when we first got engaged and I mentally kicked myself for every
time I had ever asked another couple that question. I would mumble something awkward about hoping
to be lucky enough or not everyone being so lucky and then I would shuffle off. This was a big contrast to
once we actually started IVF, at which point I because VERY open about the whole thing. I think that
before we got started it felt like being in limbo and I didn’t want to jinx anything or think about it all too
Did your husband have a particular kind of male infertility?
He’d had a vasectomy! 9 years before we met, when he was with his first wife- they didn’t want
children together and he didn’t know that they would break up. The moment they did split he realised
he wanted children if he could find the right person, and started researching reversals (the
procedure) and for us to start trying for a family. I was so excited!! We had just got back from our
honeymoon and we leapt
straight into the scans and injections! We did it all privately because we don’t qualify for any IVF on the
NHS, so where and when was up to us and we just got going as soon as we could.
What was your experience in taking the IVF meds? Are you a pro at needles now?!
My husband is a gem and did all my injections for me! I just couldn’t bring myself to do it.
I got bloating and cramping and I was absolutely exhausted! That was all manageable though- the worst
part came when we attempted a live transfer that first month. I was chock full of meds and hormones
and then had to take more meds and hormones and have an embryo transferred. It was a perfect
embryo and had a 50% chance of success. We were sure it had worked and then when I developed OHSS
it seemed like confirmation. Ovarian Hyper Stimulation Syndrome can occur when pregnancy hormones
are added to the artificial hormones. It felt like I was being struck by lightning everywhere, all the time.
It wasn’t fun. And I wasn’t pregnant. The doctor wasn’t really able to explain why I developed OHSS but
no baby. It’s possible I had a chemical pregnancy that was just very brief.
Either way, I was physically and emotionally drained so we took a month break before trying one of our
So only one embryo was transferred and it split into twins?!
We only had two embryos left after our failed first attempt and I was young and healthy and fertile, so
we only had one transferred. I think it split because my husband and I are rubbish at sharing. (ok, fine,
I’M rubbish at sharing!)
What were your first thoughts when you found out you were having twins?
I had actually been very clear and vocal about not wanting twins… So it was a little awkward. We had a scan at 7 weeks and the second it came up on the screen I saw the yin yang symbol and I said “that’s more than one baby.” I then laughed with mild hysteria for an uncomfortably long time and I definitely cried. I don’t remember saying anything else until the end of the appointment when I asked the doctor if she was sure they were both ours.
When I got outside I called my mum and told her and she cried and panicked and asked how I was going
to cope, which was… unencouraging. But then I stood there looking at the scan picture, at those two
little humans, and to me they already looked like babies. My babies. And I loved them.
I sometimes still felt as though something had been taken from me. I had lost the opportunity to be just
me and my baby. There was an adorable little interloper in my womb who would be wanting to share in
everything. That’s probably difficult to understand, but that’s how it felt. Now though, I couldn’t imagine
it any other way. Just having one baby sounds lonely!
How was your pregnancy and birth?
Rubbish! Twin pregnancy goes straight from first trimester sickness to third trimester pain! I was huge, I
had rib flaring, back pain, ankle swelling (we’re talking beach ball!) and heartburn. Pregnancy was agony
and birth nearly killed me.
At 34 weeks and 5 days I started bleeding, my waters for one baby broke on the way to the hospital and
my contractions started soon after at less than a second apart. I had two failed epidurals and 20 hours of
agony with little to no progress. Henry was lying sideways at the top of my tummy and so the
contractions weren’t pushing Felix down the birth canal. Another 6 hours later when I was finally fully
dilated and taken through to the operating theatre to start pushing, Henry was still sideways and so we
had the same problem. Pushing just squished Henry a bit and had no overall effect.
Eventually they went for an episiotomy and forceps and with two more pushes Felix was on my chest.
He was small and quiet and grumpy with big dark eyes, looking up at me and I couldn’t believe it. He was
They had told me I wouldn’t get much time with him because the priority would be getting Henry out
safely, but luckily I started hemorrhaging pretty severely and lost a third of my volume of blood. They
spent almost an hour stopping the bleeding and they let me hold Felix whenever I was conscious. Then it
was time to push again and Henry made his appearance screaming the place down. My perfect boys.
Do you feel proud to be an IVF Mama?
Immensely! I know everything that I’ve been through to get my babies and I am so proud of myself.
We’re very open about the fact that our boys are IVF babies. We’ll be open with the munchkins about it
too. I’m almost looking forward to the day that they ask where babies come from and we can tell them “
when two people love each other very, very much, they save up oodles of money and go to see a doctor
who gives them 20+ syringes…”
Did you feel different about your body during pregnancy to before you were pregnant?
I loved my body during pregnancy. I loved the feeling of being so huge and full of life. It was a real
redeeming quality of pregnancy for me, which is just as well because pregnancy was horrid!
How did you feel about your postpartum body?
Good then bad. I was lucky and lost the weight quickly just by walking every day and eating normally,
but once I’d lost the weight I slowly started to realise the things that weren’t going to change. I have
stretch marks and I have wrinkled tummy skin and my tummy is lumpier and bumpier than it used to be
and I don’t think that’s going to get better. My boys are 20 months old now. And I look older. I look
tired. My joints ache and I have back problems. Pregnancy did such a number on me!!! Don’t be put off,
lots of people have kids and are fine!
Adjusting to my new state has been hard and it’s an ongoing journey, but there was a time when I
thought I might never get to have stretch marks. I could have stayed smooth and thin and unbroken, but
I wouldn’t have my kiddies. This is the path I’ve chosen and I love it despite the physical cost. However,
some days I still look in the mirror and feel totally rubbish.
What’s the main source of inspiration for your tees/sweatshirts?
Me! And @muthahood.
My first t-shirt was my ‘Lived In’ slogan. I was lying in bed one night thinking about how much my body
has changed and I suddenly sat up. I texted my husband who was downstairs watching something
rubbish on TV and I told him I had the perfect way to describe my postpartum body- “Lived In”. He said
“if that isn’t already on a t-shirt, it should be!”
From there it was just a few months of researching to find a manufacturer that had the product quality I
wanted without compromising on the ethics. All my t-shirts and sweatshirts are made in the UK in a
carbon neutral factory.
How do you want the Mama to feel when they wear your clothes?
Empowered! Gemma from @muthahood has created something amazing. The Strong Girls Club makes
women and girls everywhere feel powerful and capable and like we’re a part of something. It might
sound ambitious, but I want the Lived In slogan to make Mamas feel strong too. Our bodies may have
changed but only because they did something incredible. We created life! We are all Lived In and all in
this together. 10% of profits go to women’s charities because we’re a team and women supporting
women makes us all stronger.
Do you think theres a social pressure for women to bounce back into shape after having kids?
Definitely. It was one of the first things I thought about when I found out I was having twins. Isn’t that
just immensely sad? My grandma’s generation was told to stay in bed for the first two weeks after giving
birth. Our generation has a ‘Mummy Makeover’ plastic surgery package involving liposuction and a
What advice would you give to anyone who’s not feeling great about their appearance?
Give yourself time. Be kind to yourself. Treat yourself more the way you would want your little one to be
treated in your position. And remind yourself that it’s worth it- that may not help everyone but it
definitely helped me. Don’t dismiss how you’re feeling but remind yourself that it’s a journey and you
won’t feel like this forever.
Is there anyone you admire for having great body confidence?
Gemma from @muthahood again… I’m a bit of a fangirl but I love watching her embracing colour and
loving clothes. And @inpolife who is just totally gorgeous and running round on instagram stories
brightening up my days. @mamaclog is amazing! She shares her beautiful mama-body on the gram and